{"id":20671,"date":"2023-02-16T16:41:04","date_gmt":"2023-02-16T15:41:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ribsonly.com\/2\/?p=20671"},"modified":"2025-03-27T10:47:41","modified_gmt":"2025-03-27T09:47:41","slug":"hydrogen-and-electricity-basic-pros-and-cons","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ribsonly.com\/2\/hydrogen-and-electricity-basic-pros-and-cons\/","title":{"rendered":"Hydrogen and Electricity Basic Pros and Cons"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full is-resized\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"853\" height=\"329\" src=\"https:\/\/ribsonly.com\/2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Hydrogen-versus-electricity.jpg\" alt=\"Hydrogen versus electricity @ RIBs ONLY - Home of the Rigid Inflatable Boat\" class=\"wp-image-20701\" style=\"width:840px;height:323px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ribsonly.com\/2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Hydrogen-versus-electricity.jpg 853w, https:\/\/ribsonly.com\/2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Hydrogen-versus-electricity-150x58.jpg 150w, https:\/\/ribsonly.com\/2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Hydrogen-versus-electricity-768x296.jpg 768w, https:\/\/ribsonly.com\/2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Hydrogen-versus-electricity-600x231.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 853px) 100vw, 853px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Hydrogen versus electricity<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"introduction\">Introduction<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The last years <a href=\"https:\/\/ribsonly.com\/2\/all-new-zerojet-highfield-e-jet-330-electric-rib\/\">electric engines on RIBs<\/a> and other boats are slowly emerging but what with the hydrogen as fuel? I did some research on the subject and incorporated it into this high-level article.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Hydrogen and electricity have a long history as energy sources.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In recent years, both have gained increased attention. They&#8217;re seen as potential alternatives to fossil fuels, but their relative advantages and disadvantages need to be considered.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-rank-math-toc-block\" id=\"rank-math-toc\"><h2>Table of Contents<\/h2><nav><ul><li><a href=\"#introduction\">Introduction<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"#hydrogen\">Hydrogen<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"#pros-and-cons\">Pros and Cons<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"#nearly-emission-free\">Nearly Emission Free?<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"#cost-of-hydrogen-and-electricity\">Cost of Hydrogen and Electricity<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"#environmental-impact\">Environmental Impact<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"#an-h-2-v-8-engine\">An H2 V8 Engine<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"#kawasaki-h-2-japans-driving-force\">Kawasaki, H2 Japan&#8217;s Driving Force<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"#sources-about-hydrogen-and-electricity-randomly\">Sources About Hydrogen and Electricity<\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/nav><\/div>\n\n\n\n<!--more-->\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"hydrogen\">Hydrogen<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"853\" height=\"464\" src=\"https:\/\/ribsonly.com\/2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/hydrogen-periodic-table.jpg\" alt=\"hydrogen periodic table @ RIBs ONLY - Home of the Rigid Inflatable Boat\" class=\"wp-image-20681\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ribsonly.com\/2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/hydrogen-periodic-table.jpg 853w, https:\/\/ribsonly.com\/2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/hydrogen-periodic-table-150x82.jpg 150w, https:\/\/ribsonly.com\/2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/hydrogen-periodic-table-768x418.jpg 768w, https:\/\/ribsonly.com\/2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/hydrogen-periodic-table-600x326.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 853px) 100vw, 853px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Hydrogen in the periodic table<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Hydrogen is the first element on the periodic table, due to its atomic number being one. This means that it has only one electron in its atom. It is also lighter than Helium This has consequences in storing hydrogen.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Hydrogen can be stored in several ways, as a gas or as a liquid. Usually, storing it as gas requires tanks of high pressure ranging from 350 to 700 bar (5,000 to 10,000 psi). As comparison we live in 1 bar.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">For liquid hydrogen storage, it must be kept at a cryogenic temperature. The boiling point of hydrogen at a pressure of 1 atmosphere is -252.8\u00b0C.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">For the sake of completeness, hydrogen can also be stored on solid surfaces via <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Adsorption\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">absorption<\/a> or within solids by absorption.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"pros-and-cons\">Pros and Cons<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"853\" height=\"569\" src=\"https:\/\/ribsonly.com\/2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Pros-cos-1.webp\" alt=\"Pros and cons\" class=\"wp-image-20736\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ribsonly.com\/2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Pros-cos-1.webp 853w, https:\/\/ribsonly.com\/2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Pros-cos-1-150x100.webp 150w, https:\/\/ribsonly.com\/2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Pros-cos-1-768x512.webp 768w, https:\/\/ribsonly.com\/2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Pros-cos-1-600x400.webp 600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 853px) 100vw, 853px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Pros and cons<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Hydrogen and electricity each have their pros and cons.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Electricity has the advantage of being much more widely available than hydrogen.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It is relatively easy to transmit. Distribution is straightforward.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It can be generated from a variety of sources such as nuclear, solar, wind, and hydropower. Furthermore, it is relatively easy to store and efficient to use.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">You need a lot of batteries to store onboard. They come with a lot of extra weight. The difference in weight with a combustion engine is huge.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Hydrogen, on the other hand, is much less widely available than electricity. It is difficult to transport, store, and use efficiently, due to its low energy density.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">However, H2 is an abundant, renewable, and nearly emissions-free source of energy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">When burned or used in a fuel cell, it does not produce massive greenhouse gases. It can be used to power vehicles and other applications.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"nearly-emission-free\">Nearly Emission Free?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">When hydrogen is used as fuel, a small amount of oil is burnt whilst using its internals. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This can lead to some minor levels of carbon particulate emissions being released into the environment.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Producing it requires a lot of water and energy. This impacts the environment depending on the method used. Producing <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sciencedirect.com\/science\/article\/pii\/S235248472201321X\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">green hydrogen<\/a> is the way to go.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"cost-of-hydrogen-and-electricity\">Cost of Hydrogen and Electricity<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">When it comes to cost concerning hydrogen and electricity, electricity is generally the cheaper option.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The cost of generating electricity is relatively low. The infrastructure for transmitting and distributing it is already in place in many parts of the world.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In contrast, the cost of hydrogen production, storage, and distribution are much higher at this moment.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"environmental-impact\">Environmental Impact<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"853\" height=\"484\" src=\"https:\/\/ribsonly.com\/2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/earth.webp\" alt=\"Hydrogen and electricity environmental impact @ RIBs ONLY - Home of the Rigid Inflatable Boat\" class=\"wp-image-20690\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ribsonly.com\/2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/earth.webp 853w, https:\/\/ribsonly.com\/2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/earth-150x85.webp 150w, https:\/\/ribsonly.com\/2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/earth-768x436.webp 768w, https:\/\/ribsonly.com\/2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/earth-600x340.webp 600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 853px) 100vw, 853px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Hydrogen and electricity environmental impact<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In terms of environmental impact, both electricity and hydrogen have some advantages and disadvantages.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Electricity generation can produce emissions. The emissions depend on the source.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In contrast, hydrogen is emissions-free when burned or used in a fuel cell.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Know that batteries are <a href=\"https:\/\/pubs.rsc.org\/en\/content\/articlehtml\/2021\/ee\/d1ee00691f\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">hugely polluting<\/a> (do read the article!). Politicians and lobbyists keep this quiet. They promote electricity as &#8220;the&#8221; solution for the future.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Batteries contain a number of\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Heavy_metals\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">heavy metals<\/a>\u00a0and\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Toxic_waste\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">toxic<\/a>\u00a0chemicals.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Disposing of them by the same process as regular household waste has raised concerns.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The primary concerns are over soil contamination and water pollution. (<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Battery_recycling\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Wikipedia<\/a>).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">You will now understand that it&#8217;s misleading to claim that electric vehicles produce zero emissions! They pollute elsewhere.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And to be fair, hydrogen production can generate emissions, depending on the method used but I think it is here to stay.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"an-h-2-v-8-engine\">An H2 V8 Engine<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"853\" height=\"480\" src=\"https:\/\/ribsonly.com\/2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Toyota-Yamaha-H2-V8.webp\" alt=\"Toyota Yamaha H2 V8 @ RIBs ONLY - Home of the Rigid Inflatable Boat\" class=\"wp-image-20686\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ribsonly.com\/2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Toyota-Yamaha-H2-V8.webp 853w, https:\/\/ribsonly.com\/2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Toyota-Yamaha-H2-V8-150x84.webp 150w, https:\/\/ribsonly.com\/2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Toyota-Yamaha-H2-V8-768x432.webp 768w, https:\/\/ribsonly.com\/2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Toyota-Yamaha-H2-V8-600x338.webp 600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 853px) 100vw, 853px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Toyota Yamaha hydrogen driven V8<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Toyota and Yamaha have united to bring forth an amazing innovation in hydrogen combustion engines, namely a  5.0L V8 engine which has 335 kW of power and 540 Nm of torque, all while emitting extremely low exhaust.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"kawasaki-h-2-japans-driving-force\">Kawasaki, H2 Japan&#8217;s Driving Force<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Kawasaki is project leader in a collaboration between Kawasaki, Toyota, Lexus, Yamaha, Mazda and Subaru. Together, they are developing hydrogen engines. The first one ready is a V8 for Lexus.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Kawasaki has very much technological know-how in this matter. Follow Kawasaki Heavy Industries <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/global.kawasaki\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">on Facebook<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/global.toyota\/en\/newsroom\/corporate\/36328304.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">this website<\/a> to stay updated on towards achieving carbon neutrality.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And what about bio fuel and bio gas? Well, that&#8217;s another story.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"sources-about-hydrogen-and-electricity-randomly\">Sources About Hydrogen and Electricity<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=iFM2rjnFFzg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Scientists New Hydrogen Breakthrough SHOCKS American Scientists!<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/global.toyota\/en\/newsroom\/corporate\/36328304.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Kawasaki Heavy Industries<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Battery_recycling\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Wikipedia<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.sciencedirect.com\/science\/article\/pii\/S235248472201321X\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Science Direct<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/@techspace6794\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Introduction The last years electric engines on RIBs and other boats are slowly emerging but what with the hydrogen as fuel? I did some research on the subject and incorporated it into this high-level article. Hydrogen and electricity have a long history as energy sources. In recent years, both have gained increased attention. 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